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GrandMA / wyg - internet connection

Discussion in 'wysiwyg' started by Simon, Feb 23, 2021.

  1. Simon

    Simon New Member

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    Hello,

    I'm working in Bergen, while in London... Covid19 y'know. The opera will be programmed in Bergen on GrandMA, while in London I will design the lighting from 2000km away.

    We have plans to see the stage and talk to the programmer - it would be very handy to run wyg live from the remote GrandMA over the internet. To see what is going on where I cannot see...

    Both the venue and my office have good internet connections. A bit of latency is not a problem, I want to get things ready with the programmer, maybe focus a bit, see which units are running behind the masking. Music sync and so-on are not important.

    I'm not a network geek and don't want to trash my stable office internet set-up (Virgin Media)... but if anybody knows how I'd be grateful to hear how... Thanks!
     
  2. Floriaan

    Floriaan Well-Known Member

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    We have a Wysiwyg machine at the office and we run VNC to work on it from home. As long as the resolution is back to fullHD or lower it is working almost without any lag.
    On the other hand I have tried to send art net or sACN over WiFi instead of Ethernet and that does not give good results at all. Focusing moving lights is really difficult as you constantly overshoot your target.

    So whenever possible I would suggest that they setup a Wysiwyg computer locally in the same network as the board and that you log into that computer remotely.
    It might mean sending over your dongle or arrange an extra month of lease. Provided off course that the venue had a relatively new gaming grade PC to spare.
     
  3. Simon

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    Thanks, Floriaan, appreciate your reply... most folks seem to recommend having wyg and console in the same room, and some sort of remote PC control... but one suggestion came up on Facebook, seems to be very interesting!

    https://www.just-networking.com/ the.BRIDGE

    Not sure I'll get it on this show, but I like the look of it!
     
  4. Floriaan

    Floriaan Well-Known Member

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    I would take their mention about latency very serious. Data cannot travel any faster than the speed of light (where fiber network is available) or much slower (where it needs to travel through copper). This was experienced by many people last year when they wanted to record orchestra sessions or music productions over the internet during the pandemic. The risk of constantly overshooting remains using this solution.

    Have a look at this site to calculate what your minimum latency could be:
    https://www.oneneck.com/blog/estimating-wan-latency-requirements
     
  5. Simon

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    Yes, of course... but I'm an old LD, it's opera, not so fast... and anyway if I focus a light in my local wyg (to my stage plan, roughly)... the latency is at the other end. As for watching cues and so-on... nothing very fast in my show. And I do like the look of the gadget.

    Best of all, of course, get on a plane and go there. Won't be long I hope!
     
  6. Floriaan

    Floriaan Well-Known Member

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    Sure! I completely agree. And also: never let the possibility of buying a new gadget slip away!
     
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