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Network settings to connect Wysiwyg R45 to ETC EOS Nomad on MacBook Pro (Big Sur) / Parallels 16

Discussion in 'wysiwyg' started by John Bishop, Jan 25, 2021.

  1. John Bishop

    John Bishop New Member

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    I would like to connect ETC EOS Nomad software running natively on my MacBook Pro (2017) (Big Sur) to Wysiwyg R45 Perform running in Parallels 16 / Windows 10 on the same MacBook Pro.

    I understand that EOS has to output SACN to R45 as R45 no longer accepts EDMX.

    I have read all the advice notes relating to SACN etc. etc. that I can find, but can't find any notes for setting the MacBook Pro's network up correctly.

    I am a professional Lighting Designer, not a network guru, and wish this would be "Click and Connect" rather than the long, drawn out, hit and miss struggle to get it to work at all with the need to set firewalls on or off, allow firewall exceptions, turn wifi on or off, manually set ip addresses and subnet masks, run through SACN viewer, jump this way, turn that way.

    Do I have to configure the USB 10/100/1000 LAN or Thunderbolt Ethernet adaptor or Thunderbolt Bridge or turn off the WiFi in the MacBook Pro's Network settings? Do I need to configure anything in the Windows Network settings?

    Please could someone post a definitive list of steps to get this to work for me?
    Especially the network settings and firewall settings.

    Can I keep the Wifi on as well?


    What if I wanted to connect Wysiwyg R45 on my MacBook Pro in the UK remotely to a real ETC EOS console in Tokyo?
    What would the steps be to get that to work?

    Many thanks,

    John Bishop
    Lighting Designer
     
  2. Jason Gardash

    Jason Gardash Active Member

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    Hey John,
    I'm no Mac expert or networking expert really but you bring up some good ideas.

    In terms of networking I try to keep it to the following,
    Scan,Console Mode MA,Hognert,AI, Artnet 4, I keep as usual ip addressing and subnet. 192.168.0(or 1).### (1-255) Subnet 255.255.255.0
    Artnet, Video servers, I run on a 2.0.0.### (1-255) subnet 255.0.0.0

    If using more than 1method of networking, I try to keep them on separate network cards.

    In my system my first card does MA net (192.168.0.2) and the second card does Scan.(192.168.0.3) and I use a third Artnet for Video Server at 5gb (2.0.0.5) the 5Gb for NDI streaming mostly in Previs)

    I also keep my show systems offline from the internet all together. If I really need to update I generally just transfer files over via usb stick or use a wifi usb dongle to update then remove when done.

    I never use wifi for connections to any of my show systems for work(connection) use as I find the speeds often cause more heartache then benefits. I have added a remote tablet on occasions with a wifi router (console)and extender (dimmer beach) for large room with full room lights focusing positioning, then remove the wifi units once positions are updated. (this is rare for me to do still)

    So your idea of a click and connect does make sense for a non network guy looking for a quick setup option.
    May be worth asking and seeing if there is a way to add auto detect and auto change net cards with a drop down selection menu with nic card listing, choose nic then auto address to format (Artnet,console,server mode) needed and have predefined ip addressing.but still able to over ride settings for the more inclined network use with finer addressing needs.

    On my systems the wysiwyg computer I have my addressing set up and forget as it's the one piece that never leaves home. my consoles and video server do have ip changes but over 20 yrs of doing this I never really had to change anything other than the last set of ip address numbers to fit a venue tie in. usually form 2 to 25 or 5 to 50.

    As to the remote workings. VPN and desktop control type apps would be my guess. sorry I can't name any Mac versions for you. but only hiccup I could see is if you wanted just console in Tokyo, and Wyg in UK. be easy enough, but often the graphics will be the bottleneck. and if you wanted a remote programmer in Tokyo and a offline console with wyg in the UK all at the same time you can't dual bind the outputs so no real way to make it a useful dual editing session.

    Most people I think would just bring a gaming laptop with them to the site and setup an extra network port to help with on site referencing.
    But again this is something I don't normally do or ventured into before (remote accessing for Wyg control)

    Hope this may shed some ideas for you. If anything writing the guys at Cast-Soft may be a good way to ask. and request the networking feature. If they like the idea it would be a added feature in a release or two if little harder to implement may take a few few releases but still you know the feature could be in the pipeline.
    For the remote access I take a look at some Mac networking forums and try asking about remote desktop connections. as they be better able to point in the right direction than people creating art over network mumbo jumbo. I think.
     
  3. Floriaan

    Floriaan Well-Known Member

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    In terms of connecting an ETC console to Wysiwyg, I would go for ArtNet Limited Broadcast.
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    This is less picky for network settings and comes through almost anything (accept for the odd firewall).

    What I do not understand from your question is if you want to connect to Wysiwyg running on the same laptop. Otherwise why bother using parallels? ETC software runs great in MacOS.
    If that is the case you'd have to use a bridged network (this is a setting in the network settings of Parallels) to get your Artnet from the ETC software running on MacOS to the Wyg software running on Windows in Parallels. I never managed to send sACN from MacOS to Windows in Parallels.
     

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